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Problems mine wagon MEGANE II

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Z agitprop materials firm RENAULT: New Megane is one of the few wagons, which was built - up with the help of technology on all limits of the human p oznani. S wagon new Megane happen privileged driver. Reveal wagon with features, what are till now didn't have nor possibility introduce!
Introduction
These pages plain like tool to groundless waste good name companies A uto F REIBERG , in the same way anyhow Co. RENAULT CR. Arose only and only on the basis personal negative experience with access these firms in the event of solving repeatedly ych REKLAMAC I near new wagon Renault MEGANE II, purchased 5. May 2005.

These pages would therefore have had wait on potencionalnim also current consumers like information source about possible problems connected with purchase new wagon. Necessary add, that fan brands Renault am from tender age and over the past 16 years am to absolute satisfaction take turns rolling stock R5, R9, R11, R20, R25, TWINGO II. U contemporary type RENAULT MEGANE II unfortunately discovered problems, that are subject these pages. In erim, that firm Renault high - quality rolling stock produce will prove , unfortunately that so isn't there mine case .

Always proofless understand, that society name and sizes of what Renault is, isn't able avow, that could harrow factory leave byt odd waster and accordingly about his earlier satisfied consumer postarat. On instead is consumer obliged pass dishonourable infinite fight involved in number letters, enamels, signals , personal act and therewithal than in mine case also compulsory promotion in the media personal men, I wish come into one's own of what is in cultivated lands to the west from our limits usual . At last row then unfortunately I cannot choose but nothing else, than domoci his law per curiam.

It everything may bring so at first sight seemingly joyful thing, as is acquisition new wagon! Lastly would to all like indulge oneself in good luck to you at selection dealer also brands wagon.

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Currently RENAULT KVIZ

Formulation court expert here

Formulation dealer here

Formulation leadership set RC ZLICIN

Drawing vehicles to the left parties you always acknowledge. State behind its standpoint, TZN. Vehicle at ours common drive test (is that a already enough long ago)demonstrably after overtravel unevenness and in a hurry to the c. 60KM/h direct on left side.

Formulation redactor MOTOZURNALU CR1

Sir porter put car repair yet to the next set, but nor there him wagon repair fail to. Now is perhaps correct time to saythat the am with wagon TOMASE VRATNEHO rode. Car really much there is a draught to the lev. Not to matter a rap nor on slant road. Simply left forward.

A lastly formulation technical detachment Renault CR

Re-examined proposal steering-swivel geometry vehicles, get together corresponding norm, with reference to wish and permanent complaints custom effected above frame usual care (originally mentioned preventative, after a week correspondence was this word launched) hit - exchange springs fore spring.

Is splendidthat the has Renault CR such specialiststhat the from table recognize that wagon is in absolute order, when others their colleaguesthat the with wagon rode speak something else. Why Renault so violently stunting avowthat the dealt about defective unit? Will answer me somebody upon this question?

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What about everything then from purchase wagon take place?

After couple of weeks from takeover wagon from dealer, am he began watch, that has wagon endeavour veer to the lev, regardless of slant carriage way, which am in beginning arrange behind wind sensitive electric servo controls. Contacted am dealer with inquiry, whether is concerned normal phenomenon. Was me imparted, that is concerned problem new tyres, which yet "do not sit near the window". Was me recommended, to turn over fore rubbers. It am effected, unfortunately without success.

Continuation whole story find in reportage Motozurnalu CR1, from - broadcast of the day 23.November 2005. A what take place from transmission coverage?

What about everything then from purchase wagon take place?

After couple of weeks from takeover wagon from dealer, am he began watchthat the has wagon endeavour veer to the lev, regardless of slant carriage way, which am in beginning arrange behind wind sensitive electric servo controls. Contacted am dealer with inquiry, whether is concerned normal phenomenon. Was me impartedthat the is concerned problem new tyresthat the yet "do not sit near the window". Was me recommended, to turn over fore rubbers. It am effected, unfortunately without success.

Continuation whole story find in reportage MOTOZURNALU CR1, from - broadcast of the day 23.November 2005. What about take place from transmission coverage?

Small summary, first abided dealer exactly 30 days, just as him makes it possible to law, to expressed to complaint there sensethat the wagon is in absolute order and there is no occasion to exchange wagon. After next month succeed with law vice firm car FREIBERG arrange with itthat the agrees with follow - up visit vehicles in set RC ZLICIN, so to precede pertinent conjectures about rig visit wagon. Vehicle was then annex behind attendance court expert of the day 30.November. Edgewise law vice Co. Car FREIBERG, was promised yield to maturity attendance vice importer Renault CR. As I however found out on the spot, edgewise Co. Renault CR wasn't nobody visible, because evidently get to closethat the them this issue flow over, otherwise it explain I don't know. In the end me however yet only succeeded break silence vice Co. Renault CR, but only thanks termsthat the was visible instant stocktaking near dealer. Edgewise Co. Renault CR subsequently as well as law vice car FREIBERG was promised yield to maturitythat the according to result visit will complaint very quickly kaput. Visit in set abided from 30.11.2005 till Friday 16.12. 2005, when me contacted vice Co. RC ZLICIN with itthat the wagon is repaied and ready to takeover, though I am in writing demanded only appreciation troubles for pertinent pursuit.

Of the day 30.11. 2005 was at meeting deputies firm car FREIBERG we've arrangedthat the having finished visit wagon take part in handover, to according to result conclude next progress in all of things. Unfortunately dealer disappoint it what promised. K handover wagon subsequently nepochopitelně withheld vice firm car FREIBERG dostavit.

After repeated requests yet only vice firm car FREIBERG appear. K himself takeover wagon however on for the first time unprovability on the ground of mine dissent wording check out record in mine disadvantage. Firm Renault CR on behalf of RC ZLICIN abided near gravest bug on formulation (quote) : Re-examined proposal steering-swivel geometry vehicles, get together corresponding norm, with reference to wish and lasting complaints consumer effected above frame usual care preventative hit - exchange springs fore spring suspension

In spite of was wagon annex on appreciation troubles, was repaied. Formulation set is however at variance with previous record read here also with resulting enamel read here . I thinkthat the commentary there's no need. Vehicle embodyed defect during repeated trial rides namely also in the event ofthat the was disconnected servo drive. Renault on the one hand admittedthat the acts about trouble, on the side second this inquest refuses introduce into check out record.Explication is simple. Formulation corrections, as it is mentioned in record, me deprive of all possibility come into one's own on exchange wagon behind unexceptionable product.

Subsequently then proceeded communication among RC ZLICIN and technical detachment importer Renault CR about adjustment wording check out record. Result was out words preventative.

On other wording refuses Renault come up namely also neverthelessthat the trouble was before correction confirmed in writing dealer, court expert also leadership set RC ZLICIN.

In this sometime is high - wrought expert evidence. Vehicle am assumed with in writing mentioned reservations to wording check out record. Renault CR isn't capable avowthat the gate factory left waster and I spent JIZ more than half - year fight how with dealer so also with importer.

from expert review (review current document on the date 30.11.2005)

At drive test disply manifest distinct drawing wagon on left side above all in a hurry to the 60 km/h and at previous for-spring suspension on road surface bumps. This defect no graduates with at speeds of and hasn't connection apt carriage way.

If again at visit in chartered set Renault free from slipthat the lugged to the lev was incurred mechanical damage wagon and it is a very unlikely, since same visit was already chromic at previous two complaints, acts then about defect, by virtue of evidence of security, preclusive upright usage, for the first time reclaimed 11.7.2005 and till this time unremoved.

A how it is possible read through height, visit in set eliminated mechanical damage.

FOUND AM OLD LETTER, THAT WOULD COULD EXPLAIN, WHY RENAULT SO STUNTING WRITE TO RECORD, FROM GO O TROUBLE !

Dear Sir,

allow respond to Your stimuli concerning you ascertained troubles on vehicle Renault MEGANE II.

In this respect we're of you got e - mail by post partly of the day 5. October t.r. copy your correspondence consumer's organization, further text provision immune by law No. 40/1964 SB. and last but not least also letter addressed ours companies.

For sb.'s part  information, included in e - mail report from of the day 3.10.2005, , case pay considerable attention, because to us it depends on satisfaction our clients for the present was requisitioned documentation to story wagon, when from documentsthat the was submitteds, dysfluent existence you described bug. Is truththat the if defect on things will disply manifest at the time to the 6 months since takeover things, it is necessary, to dealer provedthat the defect arose after as much as crossing proprietorship things on buying. If it selling miss, is designed legal presumptionthat the defect subsisted already at takeover things and buying from this way given to factual state follow appropriate exigencies.

* according to informationthat the shall we available, you selling called upon to addition of a wagon, to she could have be effected diagnostics pertinent mistakes. Z present course it is possible then statethat the from your parties wasn't rendered needed co - operation,necessary to progress according to § 616 law No. 40/1964 Sb. Very us be sorrythat the this head step consider behind mistaken and in connection with by intend adopt steps pointing waste good name ours companies. Unfortunately in such a case will society compulsory defend against lawful resourcesthat the to the effect Czech legal order offers.

Suppose howeverthat the among you and selling will get to the next by negotiation as to ablation above - mentioned poverty of. Advancement arrangements shall very carefully watch and believethat the will received solving, with which will you content.

Yours truly Camilla ZALESKA customer service

* this enamel am got week after visit reseller. Apparently, Renault CR nor leave alone make sure near dealer in what state complaint is.

Here’s meanwhile last response Renault CR from of the day 2.12.2005 to mentioned business, inclusive my answerback !

Dear Sir reverse,

allow respond to your last e - mail from of the day 1. December 2005, in which show inthat the are got sensationthat the firm Renault CR Inc . stir about your wagon too never mind.

Allow you assurethat the ours society very carefully watchs whole business from under all beginning, when we're of course except documentation from our contracting partner - companies car FREIBERG, solicit also needed information and documentation from proprietor vehicles.

Very us be sorrythat the are without authorization assaulted our society, namely also through media. Considered would behind fit, should you in face of public introduced on genuine peace information as to exercitation your request and especially his presumptions. Ours society of course also saves his repute and in this direction already received needed procuration.

Of course weigh of all clients and consumersthat the expressed trust mark Renault, therefore also did you for us significant consumer. I neverthelessthat the Your act systematically harm¨ our society, shall we focus, to are satisfied consumer stayed.

Yours truly Camilla ZALESKA customer service

Has answer companies Renault CR from of the day 2.12.2005 !

Dear Mrs . ZALESKA,

all information on course complaint are for all available on mentioned pages and every has then possibility build up own estimation of mentioned thing.

Surely are sufficed take note, that there find also experience of other consumersthat the no talks too on the behoof of firm Renault and their dealers. I should hate you touch, but quite would me interest, how much time are spent consumers right in terrain and how much experience are of it took.

Believe that isn't mine focus anybody unreasonably derogate. Unfortunately itthat the firm Renault isn't able with the help of his Renault set disclose troublethat the disply manifest at the moment of sales isn't mine problem. Trouble am claim repeatedly and repeatedly am awaitedthat the will displaced. I think, from be out of court among troubleshooting consumers, however in definite moment has toleration in face of arrogance and lack of interest ends and I begin defend. In the same way arose broil how with dealer so also with firm RENALT CR. I don't know how would in my position respond other consumer, should for example had to on exchange car radio realize 4 visitors set. Reiterate 4! At that time am however everything yet took sportingly. Has defence form mentioned pages rises from previous bad experience known out of my near surroundings with Renault CR also concrete dealer. Having consulted with law vice, am came up to step promotion in the media whole problem.

Is me molten, from I have to this everything substage, because am from purchase wagon promised other result than repeatedly proliferating technical problems and continuous guesswork with dealer also your firm.

I knowthat the have you got on whole thing second thoughts than I, but I believe in youthat the if would got to the similar situation as I, perhaps would progressed in the same way.

Trouble on mine rolling stock was confirmed. What more yet after me do you want ? Wagon is now third day in set and was outcast possibilitythat the would trouble incurred alone.

Will keep really just as genuine letter of law and just as are promised or will you search noose how from whole situation out. Prove methat the you really is concerned consumer and aren't it only wind.

Then isn't problem break up like partners and no like emulators. Will prove firm Renault pitch in his dealer and acknowledge a mistakess at that, from harrow race left waster.

Or it everything was again only wind and I I shall have to with dealer try.

Contrariety to contract of purchasethat the will disply manifest during first six months of the date takeover things, considers to be the variance going already at takeover those things. According to provision par.616 ODST.3 OBCZ . has buying right at it, to selling free of charge and without undue delay thing introduced into a state corresponding contract of purchase, namely according to request buying either by way of exchange things, or her correction. Rest in then exclusively on option buying, whether will require correction, or exchange things. By way of exchange things understands exchange defective things behind that - also unexceptionable, no sort of obligatory taking other goods offered selling in same price.

At third occurrence same removable mistakes preclusive upright usage things then has consumer always right according to par.622 ODST.2 OBC.ZAK . according to his election either from contract step aside or require exchange things, namely regardless of it, whether is concerned footwear,TV set or motor - car. At avoidance returns all purchase price

Perhaps are pass overthat the in contradistinction to possibilities cancellation contract of purchase last on exchange wagon, because I thinkthat the high - quality wagon firm Renault produce can. Unfortunately in mine concrete case it on the first occasion fail, therefore her arrange next chance because me love of mark Renault guides from tender age.

Yours truly Tom reverse

Reply to mine inquiry send association defence consumers CR

Dear Sir porter,

 

in proportion as development newsmaker describe, act according to our opinion in applying complaint well. If after takeover things in six - month time will disply manifest so - called contrariety to contract of purchase, has on the other handthat the defect subsisted already at takeover vehicles and dealer should arguethat the this was not the case. Car exempt from a system, for sb.'s part exercitation responsibility dealer behind mistakes, no special lawful regime. ; title to exchange vehicles is in those phase lawful. Z your letter it stands to resonthat the dealer acknowledgesthat the purchased car embodies mistakes. For purposes pertinent court drive (where puts therewithal expect formulation independent court expert in field of) would was fit, to you this dealer confirmed. Will default if selling dutythat the him results from § 616 OBC. code optionally, will necessary convert to court (rolls is available on pages www.CAK.CZ). before however consumers usually advise contact dealer once more in writing (best with ) and try to resolve a dispute last conciliatory on the way - so - called last conciliation in arbitration.

 

Wish you however, to to court broil in the end didn't have to get.

 

Yours truly

KLARA PRIKRYLOVA

PRIKRYLOVA@SPOTREBITELE.inf

 

Association defence consumers CR

In packs 7, 110 00 Pragues 1

Hotline "SOS on the telephone" - 900 08 08 08 (8 KC/mine)

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Contrariety to contract of purchasethat the will disply manifest during first six months of the date takeover things, considers to be the variance going already at takeover those things. According to provision par.616 ODST.3 OBCZ . has buying right at it, to selling free of charge and without undue delay thing introduced into a state corresponding contract of purchase, namely according to request buying either by way of exchange things, or her correction. Rest in then exclusively on option buying, whether will require correction, or exchange things. By way of exchange things understands exchange defective things behind that - also unexceptionable, no sort of obligatory taking other goods offered selling in same price.

At third occurrence same removable mistakes preclusive upright usage things then has consumer always right according to par.622 ODST.2 OBC.ZAK . according to his election either from contract step aside or require exchange things, namely regardless of it, whether is concerned footwear,TV set or motor - car. At avoidance returns all purchase price

 

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Lastly I can't not to use words alike consumer: Is that a than in policy. Every four years, when are election, politicians you dance in the square, offer you beer, offer you couple, start nurse Your snivelling children, but in a jiffy, when throw vote to the urn, already that to you aren't, already aren't voter, but citizen. Here is that a it all. When the prepare buy new car, so you welcoming, red carpet, nearly there dances girls in garbs. In a jiffy, when pay purchase price and have you any problem, so you nobody knows."

 
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